GridPP PMB Minutes 2 - 10th September 2001 ========================================== Present: Roger Barlow(RB), Nick Brook(NB), Pete Clarke(PC), Tony Doyle(TD), John Gordon(JCG), Steve Lloyd(SLL), Robin Middleton(RPM), Les Robertson(LR). Roger Barlow was welcomed as Deputy Chairman of EB to complete the membership of the PMB: Project Leader Tony Doyle Appointed by Collaboration Board Deputy Project Leader John Gordon Appointed by Project Leader Chair of Collaboration Board Steve Lloyd Ex officio Chair of Technical Board Pete Clarke Appointed by Project Leader Chair of Experiments Board Nick Brook Ex officio Deputy Chair of Experiments Board Roger Barlow Ex officio Resource Manager Dave Britton Appointed by Project Leader DataGrid UK Project Leader Robin Middleton Ex officio CERN Liasion Les Robertson Appointed by CERN e-Science Director Neil Geddes Ex officio Review of Actions ----------------- 1.1 RPM - find out status of awarded EDG posts. Group Leaders who have received posts were emailed on 10/8. 1.2 SLL report the membership of PMB to CB. SLL had emailed the composition to the CB who do not meet until late October. CLOSED 1.3 RPM to report on last year's spend attributable to GridPP Waiting for Dave Morrell input. 1.4 RPM to estimate this year's travel based on spend to date. Waiting for Dave Morrell input. 1.5 SLL to get web page updated. Problem with remote access to development version of pages. This is stopping other people from contributing. 1.6 PC to publish contact details for weekly video conference. DONE New Action 2.1 PC to tell UCL VC people that we plan a PMB VC at 1pm Monday each week. 1.7 JCG set up PMB mailing list. List has been requested. 1.8 JCG to summarise weekly WP meetings to PMB Ongoing - CLOSED. 1.9 RPM to circulate DataGrid PMB agenda and summary of meetings to GridPP PMB. Agenda of next meeting has been circulated. Minutes of previous meeting are available on DataGrid Internal web. RPM will circulate summaries after future meeting. CLOSED 1.10 PC to forward information on X-project. DONE 1.11 PC&DB to determine which project management tool to be used. Need more input 1.12 NIG to transfer 900GBP to Janet Seed for allocation via the RAL SLA this year for GridPP hardware procurement. NIG not present. RPM will ask Dave Morrell if he has seen email. 1.13 JCG to convene hardware acquisition group and define timeline. Ian McArthur has agreed in addition to the names in the minutes of the first meeting. 1.14 NB to consult with EB on feasibility of timetable for defining programme of work and filling posts. Waiting for 1.17 which has now been circulated to EB. 1.15 TD to finalise timetable after feedback from NB Timetable fixed by Peer Review Selection Committee on December 7th. Small adjustments to intermediate dates still possible. 1.16 SLL to describe process and timetable to CB 1.17 PC and NB to define format of experimental requirements Document circulated by PC over the weekend. DONE 1.18 Everyone to rework their roles for publication. SLL, DB, NB (subject to deputy agreement) have put up final versions, others still outstanding. 1.19 Everyone to produce minutes on their contribution. CLOSED Matters Arising --------------- - PMB posts are nominally 3 year posts, except the "sliding" arrangements put in place for the EB (deputy replaces chair after 2 years) - CB to approve the Peer Review Selection committee chairman ACTION SLL - Secretarial help at Glasgow (part-time Grade 3 post) has been added to the RG2 for the Project Leader post (+1k PC & 2k consumbables budget). - The PPARC posts for CERN are now advertised with closing on 19th October (perhaps first review on 1st November). Hardware for yr 1 is 300k to CERN. ACTION: LR to table a 1-page document on the proposal to spend the 300k. This would be reviewed at a PMB and the results minuted so that PPARC can act on it. CERN would use their standard procurement route. Actual funding mechanism to be talked through with PPARC directly. ACTION: LR to contact Guy Rickett to confirm financial transfer options. InterGrid project ----------------- A request from Larry Price to set up a project structure with sites and managers defined, was discussed. It is not obvious how this differs from DataTAG. DataTAG has little or now effort for applications so that would seem a resonable thing for a larger project to concentrate on. ACTION : RPM to put place holder for InterGrid with potential interest from BaBar/CDF/D0 using protoype Tier-1/A at RAL. RPM will keep RB informed. RB will track this issue from appliation point of view. Experiment Requirements ----------------------- Long discussion on PC paper. The aim was to persuade the experiments to sign up to a middleware development programme. It was to be hoped that they would not just ask for posts to develop their own software. Dates of Meetings ----------------- - Weekly VC meetings fixed for Mondays at 1pm - 28th Sept at UCL (10:30 for coffee, start at 11am) - clash on 27th with SRB - 9th Nov at RAL (10:30 coffee, start at 11am) TD asked people to be prepared to carry on until late at these meetings. Action List ----------- 10/9/01 1.1 RPM to determine status of awarded EDG posts 1.3 RPM to report on last year's spend attributable to GridPP 1.4 RPM to estimate this year's travel based on spend to date 1.5 SLL to get web page updated 1.7 JCG set up PMB mailing list gridpp-pmb@jiscmail.ac.uk now in use DONE 1.11 PC&DB to determine which project management tool to be used. 1.12 NIG to transfer 900GBP to Janet Seed for allocation via the RAL SLA this year for GridPP hardware procurement 1.13 JCG to convene hardware acquisition group and define timeline 1.14 NB to consult with EB on feasibility of timetable for defining programme of work and filling posts 1.16 SLL to describe process and timetable to CB 1.18 Everyone to rework their roles for publication 2.1 PC to tell UCL VC people that we plan a PMB VC at 1pm Monday each week 2.2 SLL to ask CB to confirm chairmanship of Peer Review Panel 2.3 LR to table a 1-page document on the proposal to spend 300k on hardware 2.4 LR to contact Guy Rickett to confirm financial transfer options 2.5 RPM to put place holder for InterGrid with potential interest from BaBar/CDF/D0 using protoype Tier-1/A at RAL 2.6 RB to track this issue from application point of view