GridPP PMB Minutes 24 - 4th March 2002 ========================================== Present: Roger Barlow (RB), Nick Brook (NB), Tony Doyle(TD), Steve Lloyd (SL), Robin Middleton (RM), Neil Geddes (NG) Secretarial Help ---------------- TD reported that interviews had been held and an offer made. It is hoped that the person would be in post soon and be able to take minutes in future. Progress on Actions ------------------- ACTION 15.2 TD to iterate with OC on understanding of management of Tier2 Centres. The OC will not now be in April and dates in May are being sought. SL will go to Oxford to talk to Paul Jeffreys on Thursday (7th) and TD will go a week later. ACTION 17.9 SL with Andrew McNab, improve website. Andrew will go to QM on 20th March and he and SL will implement new structure. ACTION 17.11 TD Contact AstroGrid project Manager. NG made contact. A (technical) meeting is proposed (2 May) but PC doesn't want it to discuss 'management' issues. ACTION 17.14 JG Revise Tier1/A Staffing levels. Ongoing. ACTION 17.19 DB process spreadsheet from PC and use in reporting. Ongoing. ACTION 17.23 PC, RM , NB and Frank Harris to improve communication of TB and EB with WP8. The spreadsheet pro forma for quarterly reporting has been given to NB and Frank for them to digest. A dry run using LHCb is planned. NB and Frank will redefine the LHCb deliverables and their dependency on EDG deliverables in time for PC to discuss it with Darren Green. A small EB/TB sub-committee will be set up to look at the reports. There could be some clustering of reports e.g. Ganga. Information on recruiting is required from the experiments. NEW ACTION: 24.1 RM. ACTION 17.30 NB and RB to finalise EB meeting at end of March. Done. Will be March 26 at UCL 11am to 5pm. ACTION 20.1: PC & TD to produce integrated risk assessment document & GANTT charts for OS meeting in April. PC and TD will meet in Paris (Wednesday evening). ACTION 20.3: MDS/R-GMA discussion at TB meeting. OGSA/MDS/R-GMA discussions ongoing. No longer a single action. ACTION 20.5: NG to finalise written document describing how PPARC controls unfunded EU effort with Fab. This has been done. Needs Fab to agree and needs to be signed (in Paris?). ACTION 23.1 NB Agree reporting of experiment posts with EB. This is part of action 17.23. There is no need for separate reporting. NB will circulate proposal to EB and PMB. ACTION 23.2 SL to circulate CV. Done. Demonstrators ------------- TD reported on demonstrators for the Gordon Brown visit. March 25 is the date for preliminary input to NeSC. We potentially have LHCb and BaBar. An event display could be provided to visualise output locally. This wouldn't be gridified but would make the demo look better. LHCb doesn't plan to do anything special for the UK. EDG demonstrators are in various states of flakiness. The Bio applications looked best. Maybe BaBar can provide something. There will be a demonstrator for query optimisation but this may be part of the NeSC contribution. The decision date is April 8th. Other experiments are free to contribute if they want to but NB already circulated to the EB and got no response. It is important that we have GridPP displayed prominently on everything. NeSC ---- TD reported that NeSC has a funded project EDIKT with 12 posts including an Architect and Project Manager. It will be based at NeSC with Arthur Trew in charge. AOB --- NG reported that there was about to be a call for proposals for Framework 6 at the end of this month. We need to get involved in any follow-on to EDG. NG thought it worth considering an alternative to PPARC being the UK partner. Either a single lead institute or a consortium. RB asked whether phone and video facilities were really required for the Manchester collaboration meeting given that they were little used at Cambridge. It was agreed that we did not need phone but should keep the video option open in case e.g. someone from the US experiments wanted to contribute from the States. It was reported that 5 sites including RAL are in Testbed 1 and it is now open for other sites to join. Next Meeting ------------ There will not be a meeting next Monday but one will be held at CERN on Tuesday evening. The following week is the Bristol monthly PMB. Outstanding Actions ------------------- ACTION 15.2 TD to iterate with OC on understanding of management of Tier2 Centres. ACTION 17.9 SL with Andrew McNab, improve website. ACTION 17.14 JG Revise Tier1/A Staffing levels. ACTION 17.19 DB process spreadsheet from PC and use in reporting. ACTION 17.23 PC, RM , NB and Frank Harris to improve communication of TB and EB with WP8. ACTION 20.1: PC & TD to produce integrated risk assessment document & GANTT charts for OS meeting in April. ACTION 24.1 RM to get information on recruiting from experiments.